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'None of my computers have a parallel port, so I have to have one built? I really want a plasma cam, your help is much appriciated.
'Ask what add-on cards have been TESTED with the system, including what SPECIFIC Windows versions including Service Packs.Computers are cheap, so for casual use I'd probably grab an older used machine that has the port already. I'd want a dedicated PC for the job to make life as simple as possible.Newegg example of PCI-E cards below, but since I don't know if your PC takes them you'll need to find out.http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=%05&name=PCI%20Express%20to%20Parallel%20Port. Parports are a sound industry standard, the cards are trivially cheap, and for that matter cheap enough for the vendor to sell WITH drivers thus making life simple.Suggestion:Buy a few from Newegg or wherever, ops check them, and have some on hand AND list the precise model number so customers know if theirs work.As for 'not overthinking the computer issue', some folks obviously want to run their machine using their fast desktop instead of running a dedicated computer. Recommend a card + software combo so they are happy and buy your stuff.(I'd run the dedicated computer, comps are cheep and compartmenting functions means losing one PC doesn't take out other functions!)Also, does the PlasmaCAM software run well in virtual machines like VMware and VirtualBox and can it access parallel ports?
That is one way to run it on older operating systems while running something else on the desktop, and if it barfs restoring from snapshot is easy. What do smaller shops that only have a laptop do for parallel ports?Answer Northing2. To say that you can ONLY do open loop on serial ports is a lie.Amen brother,a load of rubbish that just has not been addressed. Buy an old computer? Redo this, redo that.
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I have at last count 3 laptops and two desktops,spend 10 grand, got it. Overhaul my computer to work with this.
Not going to happen, fact is plasmacam is spending 0 time on R/D on this issue. Money is burning a hole in my pocket but i am not going down the clown highway.this isue has actually became a pet peeve. TIGHTEN UP PLASMACAM. PlasmaCam recommends that you don't use a laptop with their machines. I'm not sure what the complaint here is.you can buy brand new computers with parallel ports.not a big deal.
The reason for the parallel port is due to its real time bi-directional capability (USB won't work, although an interface could be done with ethernet) and the fact that the PlasmaCam machines use servo drives with encoder feedback for accurate positioning and contouring. You could in theory properly run a machine with stepper drives with a USB interface, but you likely cannot do it and enjoy the benefits of servos with a USB interface.PlasmaCam is a very good company, and I'm sure they are addressing the percieved issue with the parallel interface! I have owned two PlasmaCam machines, the original 98Z that I used for 6 years and sold for almost what I bought it for.now I have the DHC2. It is a great machine.I particularly like the trouble free torch height control which maintains very accurate height on all material thicknesses with no gueswork. And, it has a new computer.purchased from Tiger Direct.with a parallel port.There, of course are a lot of other choices in entry level cutting machines. If the interface method is the most important criteria for you purchase.then buy one with a different type of interface.
High end industrial plasma systems with very complex interfaces are switching from RS422 style serial interfaces to the use of Ethernet style interfaces.Jim. Great discussion here Girls – but lets look at this in a more realistic point of view. Do you really want that great computer running your machine in a hostile environment or would you rather have a POS out in the shop? If you don’t buy a Plasma CAM because it uses a Parallel port it’s your lost.
As mentioned my machine runs on a Panasonic (LAPTOP) Toughbook (CF25). I do all my design work in my comfortable office on my very expense computer and when ready to cut I sneaker net all my drawing to my CF25. Bottom line it’s a $10K machine with a great software package and does everything I need it to do – Go BEARS!
Great discussion here Girls – but lets look at this in a more realistic point of view. Do you really want that great computer running your machine in a hostile environment or would you rather have a POS out in the shop? If you don’t buy a Plasma CAM because it uses a Parallel port it’s your lost. As mentioned my machine runs on a Panasonic (LAPTOP) Toughbook (CF25). I do all my design work in my comfortable office on my very expense computer and when ready to cut I sneaker net all my drawing to my CF25.
Bottom line it’s a $10K machine with a great software package and does everything I need it to do – Go BEARS!I am more or less complaining about an industry that refuses to move to new technology.Jim in the next year or 2 no computers are going to be coming with Parallel ports its a dead technology. Like i said to address the issue with USB its a fairly simple process. It just requires 2 USB plugs Input and Output you can run Parrallel information over USB it just requires 2 channels.I have a friend with a $150k Router that run on netbui, that has been dead for 8 years. Does not work with WIndows 7.2x 50 Foot USB cables.
$30 shipped having to purchase a second computer because the Manufacturer wont look into new technology. There is quite a bit of industrial technology that relies on Parallel ports.and they will be available for many more years.USB is not an industrially robust (noise insensitive) technology and will not be used for industrial machine controls. The most popular PC based robust link technology is Ethernet or protocol that is similar to ethernet.Hypertherms latest interfaces for its Plasma and Laser systems and CNC and Torch height control interfaces are similar to Ethernet, named Hypernet. They are fast, not sensitive to electrical noise, and are far superior to USB.Jim Colt Hypertherm. There is quite a bit of industrial technology that relies on Parallel ports.and they will be available for many more years.USB is not an industrially robust (noise insensitive) technology and will not be used for industrial machine controls. The most popular PC based robust link technology is Ethernet or protocol that is similar to ethernet.Hypertherms latest interfaces for its Plasma and Laser systems and CNC and Torch height control interfaces are similar to Ethernet, named Hypernet.
They are fast, not sensitive to electrical noise, and are far superior to USB.Jim Colt HyperthermIM good with Ethernet =)Parallel ports may survive in industrial but they are on the way OUT in home computing period. In the next 12 months desktops will no longer be coming with them.
And outside of 24 months i doubt you will be able to buy the expansion cards for them. I am running a CNC wood router in my shop off a old IBM Thinkpad laptop. I believe it is a T23. I also have a IBM T43 laptop with just USB that I use at times, with a USB to serial convertor.
Both are running XP. This is feeding a DeskCNC serial controller running Servos not Steppers. When a motor or servo faults as hitting something the machine stops. This is a state of the art controller not using parallel ports.
I think another serial controller is FlashCut CNC.I had a PlasmaCam at one time with a Hypertherm plasma cutter. Good machine but except for one person, tech support sucked.
They treated you as a business or commercial customer when they were clearly selling to part timers or hobbyists. I think it had then a full 90 day warranty for a $10,000 machine.
Maybe things have changed, I think it has or hope it has.PlasmaCam recommends that you don't use a laptop with their machines. I'm not sure what the complaint here is.you can buy brand new computers with parallel ports.not a big deal. The reason for the parallel port is due to its real time bi-directional capability (USB won't work, although an interface could be done with ethernet) and the fact that the PlasmaCam machines use servo drives with encoder feedback for accurate positioning and contouring. You could in theory properly run a machine with stepper drives with a USB interface, but you likely cannot do it and enjoy the benefits of servos with a USB interface.PlasmaCam is a very good company, and I'm sure they are addressing the percieved issue with the parallel interface! I have owned two PlasmaCam machines, the original 98Z that I used for 6 years and sold for almost what I bought it for.now I have the DHC2.
It is a great machine.I particularly like the trouble free torch height control which maintains very accurate height on all material thicknesses with no gueswork. And, it has a new computer.purchased from Tiger Direct.with a parallel port.There, of course are a lot of other choices in entry level cutting machines. If the interface method is the most important criteria for you purchase.then buy one with a different type of interface. High end industrial plasma systems with very complex interfaces are switching from RS422 style serial interfaces to the use of Ethernet style interfaces.Jim. Joe,I just picked up a second-hand PlasmaCam today. It's too big for my shop, but I couldn't pass up the deal.
I'm trying to figure out where I can put it now, and one of the variables is the allowed length of the parallel cable ( for reasons particular to my shop ). Any idea how long of a parallel cable it will tolerate? 6, 10, 25 feet?If there's a better place to ask questions like this, I'm all ears. It appears that the PlasmaCam Support Forum at plasmacuttingonline.com is dead. Zero posts in the last year. Attempts to register also fail.Thanks. The support for PlasmaCam machines comes from the owners group at www.plasmacam.com on this site you register with the machines serial number.
There also is a large independant group on Yahoo Groups called PlasmaPig. Go to yahou groups and search plasmapig.there.you also need to prove ownership.I have owned two.they are great machines.what can I help you with?JimJoe,I just picked up a second-hand PlasmaCam today.
It's too big for my shop, but I couldn't pass up the deal. I'm trying to figure out where I can put it now, and one of the variables is the allowed length of the parallel cable ( for reasons particular to my shop ). Any idea how long of a parallel cable it will tolerate? 6, 10, 25 feet?If there's a better place to ask questions like this, I'm all ears.
It appears that the PlasmaCam Support Forum at plasmacuttingonline.com is dead. Zero posts in the last year. Attempts to register also fail.Thanks. David,You're gonna love the machine once you get your head around it.There is a bit of a learning curve but, it won't take long.Yeah, I don't even have a computer to drive it yet. Just recycled four potential organ donors last month, that probably could've made one usable controller.I was just out working on assembling it, when I realized the best part.
This has made procrastination A GOOD THING! There are tons of projects I've been meaning to get to, but haven't. Now that's good, because I'll do a much better job with the PlasmaCam. A dangerous precedent to set, but it made my day.Anyone happen to know what color 'PlasmaCam blue' is? I had a little rust on a couple feet, which I removed, and primed, but it'd be nice to repaint them. Amen Joe!The pport is not a big deal.
I don't bring my new laptop anywhere near my shop. My laptop was way more expensive than the $199 desktop that I picked up at staples (3.3v/5v pport included) for my machine. Heck, HP will even custom build you one with 5v port for around $500. What's the big deal? Anyone smart enough to look at the cons of a stepper motor system vs the speed and accuracy of plasmacam's servo motor system would realize this. These guys sound like the type of people who sit on the TV and watch the Sofa.By the way these guys manufacture and sell plasmacam ready pports:can be installed on any new desktop computer.Hap.
Very odd that you needed to uninstall, reboot and install. With me it just upgraded from 3.01 to 3.11 on all boxes without even blinking. GUI is slightly different (mostly black vs grey on buttons), but all in all working fine now on 64-bit OS with high-res screen.
And the added Export/Save log does help to find historical saves.Still open for me:. multi-channel playback.
event-driven playback (i.e. Quickly locate motion detected and play from there on like V2 had). shorter options on skip-steps (1 min minimum is too large, or allow speeded-reverse play like V2 had).